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tomslee

I've definitely discovered some great books because they were alphabetically next to others in the library. I'm all in favour of randomness too.

tomslee

I'll watch out for that. Cheers.

tomslee

One thing I've not sorted out is whether to trust the assumption of it being a matching problem at all. See http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/15/magazine/15wwlnidealab.t.html for why it might not be.

tomslee

I'm not the only one who had never heard these worlds. Neither had Paul Kedrosky.

Kurt Voelker

Here's the thing, most recommendation systems rely heavily on product attribute similarity - not just popularity or community preference. It seems to me that both this model and the Fleder Hosanger models discount this fact - and it is a huge one at play in how recommendation systems work all over the web.

Pandora for example, makes recommendations based upon how well the "musical dna" (product attributes) of a song match the "dna" of any other. A song (product) recommendation, then, is *not* made based on the user's preference similarities to others on the web (the community), but on the similarity of the product itself to the amazingly diverse long tail of other products. So in this case, we're seeing pure diversity discovery unbiased by community viral popularity.

Is it an oversimplification to say, sure, the frictionless nature of information discovery on the web makes it possible that we all are "aware of the popular stuff" - but that certainly hasn't reduced our ability to simultaneously discover (and ultimately consume) more from the long tail, right?

Alot has been said in the past about 'cumulative disadvantage' in the context of web 2.0 and a more socially focused web. Here's some of my thoughts from a few years ago:

http://www.kurtvoelker.com/items/view/325/cumulative-dis-advantage

Bryce

The best thing I can imagine for increasing diversity is:

A) a "Show me a random thingy" button

along with

B) some way of rewarding the people who viewed and recommended an item before it became popular.

tomslee

Kurt - Interesting thoughts, but I disagree.

I think Pandora is unusual in its musical dna approach, and the idea of building attributes into a system is perhaps something limited to music. For example, the leaders in the Netflix Prize competition are using nothing about a movie/DVD except its title and release date - everything else comes from viewer assessments of movies. And Amazon doesn't build any attributes into its system either so far as I know.

As a result, in the movie and book space at lease, products don't have attributes until people rate them. This is the "cold start" problem that some recommender system people are looking at.

The Watts study that you don't like highlights the uncertain nature of products having well-defined attributes as well. It shows that people's perception of one song or another are shaped by others recommendation. In the last twelve months of the Netflix Prize one of the new factors the leading teams are building into their approaches is to take the date of ratings into account - the attributes of some movies apparently change over time.

tomslee

Well I haven't done much thinking about actual constructive ideas. I'm more interested in pouring cold water on others :). But I like (B) a lot.

garrypeterson

Interesting post.

Your idea about the internet also relates to island biogeography theory in ecology. The same amount of land in a bunch of small islands will have more species than one big island. This theoretical arguement is one reason why ecologists are worried about the increased transport of organisms around the world coupling the world together (i.e. biotic homogenization/invasive spp) making all the islands into one big island which is able to support much less diversity.

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