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Phil

Tangentially, I thought that SXSW presentation was great (apart from that damn tail) right up to the positive recommendations. (*All* music? Nobody wants to listen to *all* music, or has time to.) I felt towards the end they were basically trying to reinvent John Peel. Might it be easier (or if not easier, more productive) to focus on the conditions which made Peel's programme possible?

Jason Hinsperger

"It is well known that the extended Huckel model fails to include the most elementary features needed to reproduce a chemical bond."
Seriously? Who do you hang out with where such things are well known?

tomslee

Fair enough - I was showing off that I used to know some theoretical chemistry once upon a time. But really, talk to any theoretical chemist you know and they'll say the same thing. Honest.

Ben Hyde

Repeating my self here but Krugman has another delightful presentation of the role of models like this - <http://web.mit.edu/krugman/www/dishpan.html>.

Introspectively ... since reading that essay years ago I a) now use the phrase "dishpan model" as if everybody knows what it means, and b) consider it kind of unforgivable if you fail to construct at least one such model about the question at hand.

The Slate article you link to above is delightful in it's emphasis on the playful nature of these and the tendency for far too many people to go all pompous as soon as they capture one.

www.google.com/accounts/o8/id?id=AItOawlkmZj88rYGcG58o-fNgwCy9fkBa-8jbFg

I believe that there is too much miss-informed notions of conceptual thought in this planet that it is truly hard for one person to determine what and who should be the valid source for any subject.

There is an interesting excerpt from http://www.brooklynrevue.com/2009/03/24/the-110th-book-revue/

This is discussion Noam Chomsky's work and how it relates to the article above.

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