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Hal

I think that a far bigger influence on the "tv-ification" - or whatever we should call this - is the stranglehold on content that the DMCA and all its brethren have given Cable and TV and the Motion Picture consortiums. Without this incredibly effective set of weapons, we would have been in a far different state than what we have drifted to.

Thanks, Senator Feinstein!

Cosma Shalizi

link now rotten

The statistics department server is being upgraded (hopefully not a euphemism in this case), but the appropriate link will eventually be to my lecture notes on page-rank.

Matt Stoller

TV 2.0

Doug K

"If your search process succeeds in aggregating what large numbers of people think, it will mostly reproduce established, mainstream cultural hierarchies, by definition."

perhaps this is the worm at the heart of the rose: "what large numbers of people think (on the web)". Early denizens of the intertubes surely had a counter-cultural view of the world. With Facebook as the face of the Internet, phatic utterances reiterating the conventional wisdom dominate, and the mainstream re-establishes its hegemony. The maze of the Internet approximates the maze of the world ever more closely.

Dan

A great book that addresses specious arguments about media supersession is The Social Life of Information (Brown and Duguid 2000). Their critique of the idea of a newer form of media necessarily replacing another also apply to necessarily competing. If you haven't already read it, I think you would enjoy it and find it useful for many of your other technology-related interests (though only based on my several years reading your blog).

tomslee

Hal - Sounds like there is a lot behind your opinion. My own has been that DMCA is a symptom rather than a cause. When Comcast owns NBC it is straightforward to see what the attitude of ISPs will be to copyright. If you are right, it is galling for those of us from outside the US to have our culture shaped by local laws.

Cosma - Link fixed. Thanks.

Doug - I agree, the countercultural nature of the Internet was more to do with who was on it than anything else.

Matt - Googling "TV 2.0" sends me to a Wired article from a few years ago looking into the future of TV. Unfortunately for them, the future never does what you want it to.

Dan - Yes: great book. And you've been reading for years? Thanks!

Seth Finkelstein

Regarding "If your search process succeeds in aggregating what large numbers of people think, it will mostly reproduce established, mainstream cultural hierarchies, by definition.", that reminds me of something I tossed off a while back, which I called the "Central Pundit Theorem" (apologies to the "Central Limit Theorem")

"All programs which do popularity data-mining of a topic, tend to converge to a small pundit subset."

Roughly, if one has a tiny number of gatekeepers on a topic, then reconstructing the set from "bottom-up" references will give the same result as "top-down" specification (all roads lead to Rome, all links lead to the A-list ...).


On another point - "as a site of contention rather than as an actor in the continuing struggle over the future shape of society" - this is the divide between the technological determinists versus the non-determinists (indeterminists?).

Alex

In the UK, TV has become generational. The older you are, the more TV you watch. Part of the difference is accounted for by online video (OFCOM doesn't break out traditional TV-but-on-the-Web) but not enough to reverse the trend.

Sunny Kalsi

I... have an urge to retweet this...

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